Comments (55)

• shane

  In my experience, I believe they tend to underestimate the fundamental pervasiveness of philosophy. They miss the cause/effect relationship to reality, and thus see villains where they should see ideas and systems.

  Some simply don't know any better. They know SOMETHING is wrong, but without a proper understanding of economics, they only see the obvious effects of that something. When early man saw the sun and the stars go across the sky, he naturally assumed the Earth was the center. Any idiot could simply look up and see that the sun rotated around the Earth.

  However, I don't think this Amero thing is as far fetched as you would argue. It is a well known trick of fiat money to assume a new name and appearance when the old version becomes worthless. Just make one new "Amero" worth 100 old FRNs, and voila, you now have a "strong" currency.

  Published: October 24, 2008 11:15 AM

• GWN

  I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that you are new to the concept of the Amero. 1st, everyone except the most new or unthinking knows those coins are conceptual.

  Unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that our countries are effectively removing our borders. Do you know what Northcom represents? Are you familiar with the Security and Prosperity agreement? Do know that your banks have been socialized and your constitution is lying in rags?

  I ask you to pay attention to what is happening in your country and around the world. Your comments seem to be based more on perception than reality. The biggest problem right now is the population's apathy, or complete disregard for what is in front of their very eyes.

  Once you have done your research (not wiki) and know what these things represent, are aware of what borders our joint militaries are actively protecting etc, please post again.

  GWN.

  Published: October 24, 2008 11:27 AM

• Ohhh Henry

  "And as for the dollar, it would be a fantastic thing to see it replaced by a regional or even international currency that is sound and hard, but, sadly for us, the paper thing called the dollar suits the interests of the elites just fine."

  I don't think the goal of any (hypothetical) Amero would be to introduce a sound, hard currency - it would be the opposite. The plan, I speculate, would be to give the Wall St. banksters a new lease on life. Having lost world financial domination and discredited the USD as a currency, they might try to be the biggest bully in their own sandbox instead of in the whole town. In other words, get access to Canadian and Mexican oil and other resources at an advantageous price and also keep the profits invested in their own little sandbox instead of overseas in some middle eastern or far eastern financial center.

  I can see how the banksters would be attracted to such a plan, as a consolation prize, but why would the Canucks or Mexicans? Probably they would be persuaded by a round of severe currency fluctuations wreaking havoc on their exporters (many of which are, at least in Canada, hobbled by union contracts), who would then complain that they want exchange rate "stability". From there it's but a tiny baby step to cook up the currency union and then sell it to the populace as both necessary and inevitable.

  Published: October 24, 2008 12:13 PM

• David

  I agree with Henry. Besides, if the goal of the socialist elite is to replace all borders with one world government, then the Amero would be a logical step in that direction. And it most certainly will not be a hard, sound currency. The bigger the government, the more corrupt.

  The Amero may be just a pipe dream, but the move to one world government is not. The European Union is just the first step. The North American Union is not far behind. Jeffrey, what are thoughts on the NAU? I used to believe that was a conspiracy theory as well, but changed my mind. It makes sense and fits with the socialist agenda.

  Published: October 24, 2008 12:22 PM

• Jeffrey Tucker

  Oh, certainly. If there Amero were real, it would certainly be paper. As for the North American Union or whatever, I think we can be sure that the mavens of D.C. will never give up their power voluntarily.

  Published: October 24, 2008 12:29 PM

• Roger Strong

  For all the theories and handwaving about the Amero and the NAU, the conspiracy theory crowd has yet to show a single person in power who wants either.

  Instead they misrepresent private lobbyists' ideas as government policy, misrepresent the SPP as an NAU, misrepresent former Mexican President Fox's comments about a latin american free trade zone as being about an NAU, etc.

  They use the European Union as an example, ignoring that North America isn't like Europe.

  North America hasn't had the cycle of major war after major war that the EU was created to end.[1]  Not just WWII, WWI and the Napoleonic wars, but "little" ones like Thirty Years War - a third of the population of Germany wiped out.

  More importantly, Europe has several large powers and plenty of smaller powers that could team up, ensuring that no one country would dominate the rest.

  North America on the other hand would be dominated by the US's economy and population.  To avoid being outvoted EVERY time, Canada would have to be an equal partner with equal say in monetary and other policy. This would in turn be unfair to Americans. It won't happen.
  

  Published: October 24, 2008 1:44 PM

• Stanley Pinchak

  Jeffrey Tucker,
  What if they finally expanded congress (as it surely can not represent the will of the people right now being over 600,000 to 1 representation), and the senate at the same time, bought off the representatives and senators by keeping them in place, and had the additional representatives cover the new territories. By keeping the bureaucracy the same, nary a peep would be heard.

  I personally don't think that they can pull this off in the near future because too many Americans are xenophobic, but with the right exposure in TV and the news, Mexico can be integrated within a decade. I don't know if it is demographics and marketing, but already I see more and more Latino characters in entertainment and and softer stance on the NAU milieu from the media than the population at large.

  Overall, i see the idea of the NAU as quite feasible, but I think that the big push is several years down the line. What we see now is just the groundwork of winning hearts and minds.

  Published: October 24, 2008 2:09 PM

• Roger Strong

  Stanley Pinchak,

  What you suggest isn't an EU-style union of nations - you're suggesting that the Mexico dissolve and become part of the US.

  What makes you think that Mexico wants either option? The already protest *NAFTA*.

  Canada certainly woudn't accept either. The last ruling party seen as to close to the US - the Progressive Conservatives under Mulroney - wasn't just voted out of office, they were voted out of existence. Canadians like Americans and they like trade, but being seen as giving up Canadian sovereignty is the kiss of death in Canadian politics.

  Not only have the NAU crowd not named a single person in power in the US or Canada who wants it, they haven't shown a credible reason WHY Canada would join.

  Where the US spent the last 8 years piling record deficit after record deficit on it's national debt, Canada has used surplus after surplus to pay down it's debt. Canada's housing market is strong. It's unemployment rate recently reached a 33-year low. The sub-prime mortgage crisis didn't happen here. The World Economic Forum declared last week that we have the soundest banking system in the world.

  Standard NAU/Amero theory usually declares (without explaing why) that economic collapse in the US will lead to both. But they haven't explained why, if that economic collapse happenned, Canada would tie itself to a sinking ship.
  

  Published: October 24, 2008 3:09 PM

• Karlos

  Jeffrey, the idea that by establishing the NAU the mavens of D.C. would somehow "give up their power" is as naive as the idea that they gave away their power by having set up the WB, IMF or WTO.

  Published: October 24, 2008 4:51 PM

• Roger Strong

  Karlos,

  Oh? What power did they give up?

  Those organizations didn't stop the US from spending itself to bankruptcy in recent years.

  They had no power or effect over the massive institionalized mortgage fraud in the US that led to the current crisis.

  They didn't stop Wall Street from cheerfully commited fraud against the foreign investors it depends on for loans, on a massive scale, by bundled those subprime mortgages together into investment packages and misrepresentign them as low-risk. Even investment-rating agencies like Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s were in on the con.

  The world's economic system is built on trust, and fraud by Wall Street and your "mavens of D.C." they answer to / control just about destroyed it. It may yet do so.

  The current crisis shows that D.C. and wall street haven't given up power to those organizations, and that in the case of at least some regulatory power, they should.
  

  Published: October 24, 2008 5:41 PM

• Ohhh Henry

  The point is not that the banksters and their cronies in Washington want to or have to give up power and wealth. The point is that they might be tempted to lobby for an Amero scheme to preserve their power and wealth. The carrot offered to Canadians and Mexicans would be stable exchange rates with their biggest trading partner. There would be some nod given to the idea of sharing decisions concerning monetary policy with the northern and southern partners, but it won't happen unless the Wall St. banksters feel pretty secure in their ability to make the policies break their way. The Canadian Bay Street banksters would of course be thrown some fish, as would their Mexican counterparts.

  Monetary unions are neither very exotic nor unusual and I don't think it takes a tinfoil hat to see the possibility of such a thing happening between three countries already linked closely by geography, trade and culture. That is NOT to say however that such a union would be either beneficial or long lasting.

  Published: October 24, 2008 7:49 PM

• Ball

  I wish people would stop talking about this crazy conspiracy where Europe would have one security border, then a common market, a common currency, and finally a common government....

  oh wait

  Published: October 24, 2008 8:45 PM

• Roger Strong

  If stable exchange rates were that important, Canada would simply peg it at a fixed exchange rate as it did in the 1960s.

  Having an export-based economy, Canada fixed it at 1 Canadian dollar = 0.925 U.S. dollar. A dollar (or Amero) at parity is *bad* for Canada.

  The Bank of Canada had that option as the $CA went over parity with the $US. It chose not to this time; it didn't want to give up control.

  With the US population and economy being so much larger than Canada's or Mexico's, any "Amero" would merely be the US dollar renamed. It would do nothing for stability, and nothing for Canada.

  As you say, Canadian bankers would be thrown a fish, not any real control. They know this. They won't go for it.

  Instead, Canada is reducing it's dependence on US trade. It's been signing free trade deals with *other* countries as fast as it can - five countries in Europe and South America so far this year alone. It's negotiating a "deep integration" with the EU - not joining the EU, but far more than free trade. They've talked about this before, but with the US economic problems and the collapse of the Doha round of GATT talks, it looks like it's going to happen.

  Canada also refused the "Common Security Perimeter" that Washinton wanted. We now have passport requirements and other obstacles on the border for the first time EVER.

  We're heading rapidly away from any NAU, and have been for years.
  

  Published: October 24, 2008 8:51 PM

• Roger Strong

  Ball,

  You were right from the start - there was no conspiracy.

  Those were seperate agreements happenning over five decades. None of them came into being without the public knowledge and discussion years ahead of time.

  Each country has the power to pull out of those agreements. Each is a democracy. Each has had elections where the citizens could elect an anti-EU party that would stop further integration, or pull out of the EU.

  Read my first post about why North America isn't the same as Europe; why an EU-style union wouldn't work in North America.
  

  Published: October 24, 2008 9:04 PM

• Robert Wenzel

  Jeff,

  You write:

  There are so many conspiracies going on in the world. Why is it that "conspiracy theorists" are so bad at see the ones parading around in front of our eyes daily?

  Just curious, what are the top conspiracies you see in front of our eyes?

  Published: October 24, 2008 10:08 PM

• Vanmind

  Both Calderon and Harper have endorsed a "North American Community" based on a book co-written by -- among others -- that dirty politician John Manley.

  Published: October 24, 2008 10:30 PM

• Granny

  They have already started eminent domain hearings in Texas and taking citizens land for the NAFTA highway from Texas to Canada so that goods can come into Mexican ports and be transported directly to mid America, without having to make the usual stops & checks from what I understand, so our own truckers won't be the ones doing the driving. I guess we are being told we have to allow this due to the WTO, and it is already happening. Had you heard of the NAFTA highway?

  Published: October 25, 2008 12:03 AM

• newson

  this amero is a giggle. one-world-conspiracy-subscribers should relax and sit back to watch the coming dissolution of the euro. a fair-weather ship launched with blue sky and calm seas, it's about to face gale-force winds and mountainous waves. separatist movements will have a field day, fueled by hatred for brussels, and nostalgia for their former national currencies.

  Published: October 25, 2008 12:06 AM

• Roger Strong

  Ah, "Building a North American Community".

  This was produced by private lobbyists, not any government agency. It calls for the borders between Canada and the US to be made "transparent", with a "Common Security Perimeter" around North America.

  Look at what happenned since it was published:

  - Canada REJECTED the "Common Security Perimeter" that the document called for.

  - Washington put PASSPORT REQUIREMENTS and other obstacles on the border for the first time EVER.

  - The US grew more insistent and more creative in committing economic suicide, making closer ties look like an even worse idea.
  
  - Canada and the US had the SPP talks, agreements on minor trade and security issues WITHOUT the obligations of a treaty.

  - Canada has signed free trade agreements with OTHER countries, to reduce it's dependence on trade with the US.

  - Canada started serious negotiations with the EU for a "massive integration" of economies that goes far beyond the free trade of NAFTA. Again, to distance itself from the US economy.

  In other words, other than a few harmless alternatives to what the document calls for, Canada and the US have done the EXACT OPPOSITE of what it calls for.

  Waving about "Building a North American Community" today is like waving about a document from Toshiba - today - claiming that HD-DVD will win over Blu-Ray.

  And your claim of a Harper endorsement is pure BS too. Such claims are based on yet-another-all-accusation-no-evidence Lou Dobbs conspiracy theory rant. His assertion that Harper's having made a speech at a CFR-sponsored event (actually it was the Hudson Institute, not the CFR) in the US is rather silly - it's rather hard for a foreign dignitary to make a speech in Washington - outside their embassy or the White House - without one of these organizations involved.

  Here's the transcript.
  http://www.cfr.org/publication/14315/conversation_with_stephen_harper_rush_transcript_federal_news_service.html

  There's no endorsement. If anything, he said the opposite. For example:

  "My own sense is that -- my own sense is that any talk of deepening NAFTA or strengthening trade relationships on this continent is not going to happen in the immediate future. My conclusion after a year and a half in this job is that notwithstanding the reasonably good relationship I think we have with the United States government, that the United States government post-September two thousand eleventh -- I'll attribute it to that -- has very much become preoccupied with security, and security that has very much a strong emphasis on national sovereignty and national borders. "
  

  Published: October 25, 2008 12:29 AM

• Dean

  I WILL MURDER THE ASSHOLES WHO CREATED THIS IF IT IS A HOAX.

  YOU HAVE CAUSED VERY SERIOUS FUCKING FEAR AND DISTRESS FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY YOU BASTARD!

  Published: October 25, 2008 12:32 AM

• Roger Strong

  Granny,

  "NAFTA Superhighway" is a nickname used over the years for a number of very different projects.

  In Texas there's the Trans-Texas Corridor. That mega-highway with rail and pipelines is as bad as the conspiracy theorists say. It's in Texas only.

  Then there's NASCO, which runs from Mexico to Canada. It's about harmonized truck load and length regulations on EXISTING roads. There's no new highway construction involved.

  The combination of the two - the hyper-stupid "10-lane megahighway to Winnipeg" - exists only in the minds of tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists and people they've suckered.

  Notice that the Mexican portion of these highways ends at sea ports. And there's "inland ports" for clearing goods through customs. Neither aspects are needed for trade between Mexico, North America and Canada. They're really for bringing Chinese goods into the US, bypassing unionized American sea ports. China isn't part of NAFTA, let alone any NAU plan. You could scrap even NAFTA, and it wouldn't affect Chinese goods bought in this way.
  

  Published: October 25, 2008 12:44 AM

• Roger Strong

  Dean,

  These ideas - the Amero, the North American Union, etc. - are real. I can post references here to the original sources. (And to back other things I've said.)

  The hoax is that these plans have any chance of happening. They're from private lobbyists - YOU TOO can publish similar or opposite plans. The conspiracy industry misrepresents them as real.

  And it is an industry - the tinfoil hat crowd has always been a good source of revenue. You could always sell them tabloid newspapers, books, lectures and more on UFOs, racial conspiracy theories, etc. You could sell advertising in tabloids, magazines - or in Art Bell's case, radio shows. All you needed was a steady stream of conspiracy theories, and photos of vague lights in the sky or a hub cap tossed past the camera.

  After decades of UFO conspiracy theories never amounted to anything, Weekly World News was replaced by WorldNetDaily, and the people milking the gullible switched to 9/11 theories. Alex Jones made a living off people incapable of critical thought.

  Once that schtick was milked for all it was worth, WorldNetDaily moved on to NAU/Amero theories - and it's readers bought a new set of books, lectures, T-Shirts and tinfoil hats.

  With THAT discredited, WND is switching to Christianity Under Attack theories. Who knows what it'll be next year, but have your VISA card ready.

  Go to WorldNetDaily and count up all the ads (I count at least 16 ads on the front page alone), compare them to hits, and work out the revenue they're getting. They make a fortune on that alone.

  Then have a look at shop.wnd.com - their online store of conspiracy theory books and memorabilia. They're making a fortune there too.

  Go to Alex Jones' infowars.com and look at all the ads and sponsored book links. Jones also has a radio network selling ads.

  And of course, Jones's and Corsi's books are available on Amazon.com and everywhere else.

  These aren't just lone bloggers - they're media empires.
  

  Published: October 25, 2008 1:09 AM

• anon

  Dear Roger,

  Have you heard of Carroll Quigley's writings? What do you make of the CFR and Rothbard's rants in that regard? Quigley does seem to suggest that they (at least in the past) have a globalist agenda - with a political and financial elite at the helm of things.

  Published: October 25, 2008 6:22 AM

• Get real

  Yeah, like i'm going to listen to someone who only just now heard of the amero...

  Published: October 25, 2008 6:27 AM

• anon

  As someone pointed out earlier - the European Union came into existence. So a North American Union in the future is not implausible - even if things don't seem to be progressing in that direction for now.

  Published: October 25, 2008 6:42 AM

• anon

  As someone pointed out earlier - a European Union has come into existence. So a North American Union in the future is not implausible - even if things don't seem to be progressing in that direction for now. There is a good cross-section of pro-free-traders who support the idea, which is rather sad.

  Published: October 25, 2008 6:43 AM

• David

  It is not so much the "New World Order" I fear as the possibility that the level of civility found within it will approximate that which is in evidence here. I read this site precisely to get away from ad hominem slurs (e.g., "tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists", "people incapable of critical thought", "Lou Dobbs conspiracy theory rant") and acidic barbs ("once you have done your research, please post again", "your claim is pure BS..."), and so forth, yet it appears there is no escape anymore. To my mind, such liberal indulgence in the use of insult and epithet represents a flagrant disregard or even outright contempt for the rules and customs of genuine intellectual engagement and is altogether unworthy of a website dedicated to the life and work of Ludwig von Mises, who never addressed his opponents in this way.

  If this is a harbinger of how the free exchange of ideas will look in a fully globalized world, then I see good reason for concern on all sides in this New Order, regardless of what kind of government happens to be running it.

  
  

  Published: October 25, 2008 10:23 AM

• Andras

  We never leave our Queen, God Shave Her.
  On he other hand, you may have our Prince Charles.

  Published: October 25, 2008 11:12 AM

• Mr B

  
  The late Murray Rothbard was a proponent who foresaw a future Global currency.

  In the paper he wrote
  "What has Government Done to Our Money."

  Page 44 Last Paragraph
  "the inflationists' dream is some sort of world paper money, manipulated by a world government and Central Bank, inflating everywhere at a common rate. This dream still lies in the dim future"

  Now I wouldn't go calling the late Murray Rothbard a Tin Foil hat Nut.
  If he has the foresight to see such a future then that is worth taking notice of an Amero coming into being.
  

  Published: October 25, 2008 11:45 AM

• jeffrey

  That one world paper currency is called the dollar. It is strange to me that people would wipe up fears of something replacing the dollar when the dollar is as bad as it possibly could get, and certainly not something to rally around with patriotic fervor.

  Published: October 25, 2008 11:49 AM

• severin

  I think the case could be made that the Amero would be an improvement over the dollar, the peso, and the loonie. For example: Right now if Mexico needs more money they may just inflate the peso. If they were part of the Amero, then when they approached the Amero reserve (or whatever name it was given) they may be told to go fly a kite by the US and Canadian members. I think it is doubtful that Canada and Mexico could stop the US from controlling the Amero, but if they could stop the US from over inflating then great and if they can’t then we are left in the same situation we are currently in with the dollar. It would eliminate the cost of currency exchange when doing foreign business with these countries, and there would be other benefits.

  I am a hard money guy, but in the paradigm of fiat currency I don’t see a negative when comparing the horrible dollar system we have now to the horrible Amero idea. Every scenario I come up with makes me think the Amero would either be as bad as the dollar or slightly better than the dollar. Maybe someone could explain to me why the Amero idea is worse than the current dollar. I already understand that all fiat money is bad, but I don’t get this idea that somehow the Amero fiat currency idea is inherently bad and the dollar is good.
  

  Published: October 25, 2008 1:28 PM

• sbk

  David and Jeffrey, well said!

  Published: October 25, 2008 1:41 PM

• maera

  "I am a hard money guy, but in the paradigm of fiat currency I don’t see a negative when comparing the horrible dollar system we have now to the horrible Amero idea. Every scenario I Maybe someone could explain to me why the Amero idea is worse than the current dollar. I already understand that all fiat money is bad, but I don’t get this idea that somehow the Amero fiat currency idea is inherently bad and the dollar is good."

  The point with NAU conspiracists is that the single currency is also part of losing sovereignty. Part of the belief being is that if you only have to deal with the US stupid and evil parties once in awhile you might have some influence over how the fiat money is managed, with the compromises necessary to facilitate open borders for trade and employment with Canada & Mexico, you have to deal with Canadian socialism and Mexican corruption. The implications are far greater than for monetary policies alone. Once the borders are erased those in power won't even have the need for even a show of following the Constitution. As for what a NAU would mean for representational government, I doubt US ideals would prevail.

  I don't understand how after watching Bush flee to the arms of his old friend Fox during the fight against the big Amnesty bill two summers ago or after watching two generations of Bushies pandering to the House of Saud, you can't see our leaders somewhat openly plotting to deny us as much economic freedom as possible. I would think most people drawn to Austrian economics would draw this same conclusion.

  Published: October 25, 2008 3:02 PM

• Haywood Sounder

  Tin hats off, flag waving aside, Amero and NWO seem like a logical next step in government(s) gaining more power, expanding markets and further separating the richest from the almost-wiped-out middle (or low) class.

  Published: October 25, 2008 3:02 PM

• maera

  "I am a hard money guy, but in the paradigm of fiat currency I don’t see a negative when comparing the horrible dollar system we have now to the horrible Amero idea. Every scenario I Maybe someone could explain to me why the Amero idea is worse than the current dollar. I already understand that all fiat money is bad, but I don’t get this idea that somehow the Amero fiat currency idea is inherently bad and the dollar is good."

  The point with NAU conspiracists is that the single currency is also part of losing sovereignty. Part of the belief being is that if you only have to deal with the US stupid and evil parties once in awhile you might have some influence over how the fiat money is managed, with the compromises necessary to facilitate open borders for trade and employment with Canada & Mexico, you have to deal with Canadian socialism and Mexican corruption. The implications are far greater than for monetary policies alone. Once the borders are erased those in power won't even have the need for even a show of following the Constitution. As for what a NAU would mean for representational government, I doubt US ideals would prevail.

  I don't understand how after watching Bush flee to the arms of his old friend Fox during the fight against the big Amnesty bill two summers ago or after watching two generations of Bushies pandering to the House of Saud, you can't see our leaders somewhat openly plotting to deny us as much economic freedom as possible. I would think most people interested in Austrian economics would draw this same conclusion.

  Published: October 25, 2008 3:03 PM

• Cyrus

  I'm curious what others think. Isn't it possible that a single, world-government would be weaker and easier to overthrow (or more likely to fall apart) than say the current US government? Most of us are aware of the inherent problems and inefficiencies in a nation (and government) as large and diverse as the US. Looking at the EU, we can clearly see how inefficient a multi-national or multi-cultural government can be. Perhaps, we should be cheering the creation of a worldwide government as a shorter route to anarcho-capitalism or at least the opportunity to start over with smaller communities.

  Published: October 25, 2008 3:27 PM

• A Guest

  Cyrus

  I do not want to scare you or promote conspiracies, but.... when you have a RFID implant in your arm there is simply no way to overthrow the global government... and there we have the most stable consumer based society that has ever existed in modern era...

  Published: October 25, 2008 5:30 PM

• David M.

  Look I believed this whole Amero thing for a while. Until I saw the logo that is placed at the bottom tof these coins "DC" People are buying them from a website. It is a novelty Item People. Seriously
  www.amerocurrency.com/turnerexposed.html
  Hal Turner bought a coin on the net and is trying to pass off as real. His coin has the "DC" on it!
  Is it possible for our gov. to do something like this? Maybe, but guys like Hal Turner make it even harder to believe. So GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  Published: October 25, 2008 10:28 PM

• Andy

  After reading a these responses, it occurs to me that the Amero might be a government scam. For what is a more universal currency than gold. An ounce of gold is an ounce of gold the world around. The idea of money being tied to sovereignty will keep Americans supporting the dollar as it keeps losing value. So why not scare them with the threat of the evil Amero.

  The problem with the NAU idea is that it is not big enough. A more worthwhile union would include all of the Americas and the surrounding islands. We would have total control of enough resources to be completely independent, while Asia and Europe would still need resources from us. Of course it be more like the Soviet Union than the European Union.

  Published: October 25, 2008 11:50 PM

• rayendra

  For those who asked for the media coverage about Amero or North American Union, i suggest to see these on youtube:

  www.youtube.com/ watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U

  Published: October 26, 2008 4:30 AM

• rayendra

  For those who asked for the media coverage about Amero or North American Union, i suggest to see these on youtube:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U

  Published: October 26, 2008 8:57 AM

• Bill

  You say there is nothing going on and then as if by magic the whole financial system in the world goes on a wild inflation spree. There is no reason for this other than for central bankers to gain more control over their economies even if they have drive them into a depression to do it.

  As for the Amero, it is a bunch of crap. But just when you think it can't happen, the French are proposing a new Brenton Woods conference. What will happen there can easily be predicted. Some stupid easily ignored rules about hard currency as central banks create more fake currency.

  Published: October 26, 2008 11:12 AM

• JM

  I bet in the 1990's old Jeffery was espousing that the Euro "...has nothing to do with reality". As for an "international currency that is sound and hard", the banksters are trying to do that now (except for the sound and hard part , of course) in order to achieve their goal of total world control. As for Roger's statement that "North America on the other hand would be dominated by the US's economy and population", seems to me the US economy is going quickly into the dumpster thanks to our fascist govenment/industry sending our wealth producing entities overseas and the Wall St / Fed banksters trashing the dollar with their printing presses." There are more that a few people stating the dollar is close to having no value whatsoever and their case seems more plausible to me than Jefferey's or Roger's. Not sure I see the world the same way they do. Where do I get a pair of their rose colored glasses?

  Hey guys...have you heard of the New World Order???

  Published: October 26, 2008 11:40 AM

• Scott Fox

  Whether it be the Amero or some other incarnation, I have no doubt that a regional currency as a stepping stone to a global paper currency is the goal of the global financial elite.

  Published: October 26, 2008 1:49 PM

• maera

  I still don't see the idea of the Amero, hoax or not, as being incompatible with those who fight for either a return to the gold standard or the freedom to use competing currencies. Maybe it's not accurate but from my reading of material (sci-fi as well as fundamentalist interpretations of Revelations) that may well be anti-communist propaganda or an effort at building support for a counter revolution, the point is that government is seeking more and more control by manipulating the money supply. Many of you are being very literal minded here.

  Obviously you guys are capable of abstract thought. Open yourselves to the possibilities that there has been a shadow war of sorts waged between the marxists who were well established in this country by the time FDR was elected and those who still believe in democracy and capitalism. Don't be so afraid of being considered a loon or at best an ignorant rube. Perhaps, wise and intelligent people saw the marxist infilitration in this country as an enduring threat and tried to do something about it. Despite the trappings of religion/folklore/urban myth, theories about the Amero and the One World Order might just be messages from some wise elders or CIA operatives who were just as intellectually sophisticated as you who wanted our democracy to succeed.

  From my perspective, the interpretation of Revelations I was taught as a child is coming true. A wiser person might be preparing for the Rapture which I'm not but I am taking what I was told more seriously because it has predictive value. And the message in the form of divine revelation was able to be transmitted without the listeners having to know much at all about economics.

  Come on, I had a very good macroeconomics professor who believed in the possibility of UFOs. Loosen up. Use both halves of your brain.
  

  Published: October 26, 2008 3:59 PM

• Ian

  Why even have a currency at all? Why not use an RFIED inserted in each person with its own individual signal assigned to each person tied to a central database? Then instead of actually being paid or anything like that everyone is allotted a certain amount of "goods" based on their abilities.

  If we do it this way there will be no hoggers and everything will automatically be fairly distributed amongst all. That way no one can hoard prosperity, not due their fair share or be left behind by earners if they refuse or are unable to work. Now that sounds like an idea our government would love to implement and I know just the guy who would like to do it...

  Published: October 26, 2008 7:29 PM

• newson

  "the inflationists' dream is some sort of world paper money, manipulated by a world government and Central Bank, inflating everywhere at a common rate. This dream still lies in the dim future"

  rothbard's right, but the operative word is dream. fantasies don't always come true, and the history of currency pacts is peppered with failed unions. will the euro last one thousand glorious years? i think not. the traditional hard money members are already furious at the more profligate euro participants. nationalism/xenophobia cannot be discounted as a countervailing force to one-world-government.

  Published: October 26, 2008 10:43 PM

• Murray a proponent?

  Mr B

  Where in that quoted text does it suggest Mr Rothbard a proponent?
  

  Published: October 27, 2008 8:04 AM

• GWN

  Roger, where or at what time rather are you getting your information? Its true Chretien refused to be a part of northcom, but a lot has changed thanks to Martin and Harper.

  This has been laid out for a long time. For those of you who know what the CFR is, I suggest reading of the following article.

  http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20040101faessay83112/robert-a-pastor/north-america-s-second-decade.html

  For the rest of you, the information is out there, but if you don't want to see it you won't. End of story.

  Published: October 30, 2008 12:28 PM

• Nicole

  I guess we will all have to wait and see who's right then, right? Although rumors of the North American Union have been around since the President of the United States of America announced that we would have one and our own Federal Reserve Notes we use as currency suggest a one world government, not to mention Bible prophecy (if you are a Christian) so I don't see why people would say there won't be one. Maybe their personal knowledge goes far beyond the knowledge our government has or even our God that we pledge allegence to.

  Is it really a big deal if the government calls it the Union of North America and the "conspiracy theorist" call it the North American Union if it functions the same way? We are about to possibily have a President that will redistribute the wealth. Well if we are part of a union that includes Mexico and Canada, the poor the wealth will be distributed to will not be in the United States. Our government and Canada's government are already deciding how much of our tax payer money will go to Mexico. I didn't see a proposition for this on the ballot. Americans could be cut out of the "poor" loop, but that too we will have to see. If the Amero is a "conspiracy" why is there talk of the exchange rate for it? Why is our currency declining while talk of this new Amero currency helping to relieve economic woes is rising?

  From your article I don't see any facts that this is a hoax, just personal opinion. No offense, but you are in no position of power for me to think that your personal opinion and other civilian opinion would have any leverage. Listen to what your government tells you and look up the new laws that are passed without notice. They have already said there will be one currency for all three countries to use. Maybe when it is officially released, probably by next year to bail us out of our credit mess or 2012 they will have a different name for it. Does that mean the Amero is a hoax if it serves the same purpose?

  Published: November 2, 2008 1:07 AM

• Nicole

  I guess we will all have to wait and see who's right then, right? Although rumors of the North American Union have been around since the President of the United States of America announced that we would have one and our own Federal Reserve Notes we use as currency suggest a one world government, not to mention Bible prophecy (if you are a Christian) so I don't see why people would say there won't be one. Maybe their personal knowledge goes far beyond the knowledge our government has or even our God that we pledge allegence to.

  Is it really a big deal if the government calls it the Union of North America and the "conspiracy theorist" call it the North American Union if it functions the same way? We are about to possibily have a President that will redistribute the wealth. Well if we are part of a union that includes Mexico and Canada, the poor the wealth will be distributed to will not be in the United States. Our government and Canada's government are already deciding how much of our tax payer money will go to Mexico. I didn't see a proposition for this on the ballot. Americans could be cut out of the "poor" loop, but that too we will have to see. If the Amero is a "conspiracy" why is there talk of the exchange rate for it? Why is our currency declining while talk of this new Amero currency helping to relieve economic woes is rising?

  From your article I don't see any facts that this is a hoax, just personal opinion. No offense, but you are in no position of power for me to think that your personal opinion and other civilian opinion would have any leverage. Listen to what your government tells you and look up the new laws that are passed without notice. They have already said there will be one currency for all three countries to use. Maybe when it is officially released, probably by next year to bail us out of our credit mess or 2012 they will have a different name for it. Does that mean the Amero is a hoax if it serves the same purpose?

  Published: November 2, 2008 1:08 AM

• ish

  well let me tell you USA need to pay only more than three trillions dollards to china only in interest,theres no money in the world to pay this kind of money so thats the reason all this about the AMERO is gonna happen thats the future no matter what people say about the issue the amero is coming 2009 thru 2010,
  Mexico need a dateline already for this to happen,china is pushing usa for this, nobody is gonna lend money [banks] to USA ANYMORE,thats why usa is gonna give up the dollar
  is coming up a big change for all of us and we can't do nothing all is a secrecy b-tween goverments and thats sucks...ball is rolling what you re gonna do about it

  Published: November 28, 2008 7:53 PM

• Jonathan Matear

  I suppose that this new international currency would be implemented via an RFID device implanted within the skin?
  I suppose there should be a World government because us Idiots dont know how to govern ourselves?
  while we are at it lets elect a saviour for our dying planet.
  It is interesting how the prophecys foretold in the Holy Scriptures come true even when men fight so hard to make them fail.
  Your only escape (this means everyone) is to trust in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

  Published: December 10, 2008 10:47 AM

• Raymond M

  The Amero currency will never happen!...Does anyone have any idea how many countless vested US dollars are scatterred in truckloads throughout the world?....Consider the global chaos that would be created if the dollar was devalued like that...Sleep well!!!

  Published: January 24, 2009 3:23 AM

• jerry g

  The Omero is going to happen,the good old USA is going to be a third world country an by Import Export percentages we are already there.The nwo is a realty that we are going to have live with.Did any think that George Busch was kidding when he said (when we get there an we will).Look into that mans eyes an you will see that it is no joke. Good Luck

  Published: February 1, 2009 9:22 AM