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Blunders, Lies, and Other Historicist Habits

August 31, 2005 7:53 AM by David Gordon | Other posts by David Gordon | Comments (8)

John Lukacs's new book tell us more about the author than we need to know. Lukacs suffers from an intellectual obsession: he must at all costs claim that logic and truth are human inventions. His scatterbrained theories infect his historical work, sometimes with fatal results. Lukacs's skepticism about the Cold War is welcome, but by no means is he a supporter of the traditional American policy of nonintervention in European power politics. Quite the contrary, he smears the American opponents of entry into World War II. FULL ARTICLE

Comments (8)

  • Bruce
  • This is a bit nasty and over the top. Lukacs is a respected and very productive diplomatic historian. He may teach at a "Catholic girls school" but his books are published by Yale University Press (How many Mises.org contributors can claim that? Most seem to be adjunct professors at community colleges.) Lukacs is not an economist, and he's something of a philosophical amateur -- but that's not the proper basis for evaluating his scholarly work.

    And what's so hard about the point Lukacs makes on U.S. entry into World War II? It was clear by the end of 1941 that Germany would have a hard time knocking Russia and Britain out of the war. But without U.S. entry, London and Moscow could not have forced Germany to surrender. The outcome would have been stalemate and eventual truce, leaving most of Europe under Nazi control -- and the extermination of Jews, gypsies, gays, and various and sundry Slavic groups.

    Or is it now the Austrian "line" that libertarians in the 1940s should have been indifferent to the defeat of Hitler? Was Mises indifferent? Did he oppose U.S. entry into the war?

  • Published: August 31, 2005 12:05 PM

  • Tom
  • Bruce,

    David Gordon is not picking on John Lukacs. He is "bit nasty and over the top" to all who deserve it. It's quite refreshing.

    Tom

  • Published: August 31, 2005 2:01 PM

  • Munyemesha
  • Bruce,

    I think you have to show why you think that Mr. Gordon is mistaken in his analysis of Lukacs' book. That would reveal to us(or me) the other side of the coin.
    Thanks

  • Published: August 31, 2005 2:37 PM

  • Bruce
  • I wouldn't defend everything Lukacs has written (if I had even read everything he has written). But judging a prolific historian by some oddball statements on philosophy or economics is like judging an economist -- Mises, say -- by the occasional goofy passage in Human Action. It just doesn't do justice to the man's work.

    Mises.org readers who want to sample Lukacs' work should start with his superb "The Last European War," which tells the story of World War II in Europea up to the U.S. entry. It's long and intricate but still in print after 30 years -- an achievement few authors can claim!

  • Published: August 31, 2005 2:58 PM

  • Bruce
  • For an assessment of Harry Elmer Barnes that is quite different from David Gordon's, readers should go to this website:

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/denialbrief.html

    Last comment from me!

  • Published: August 31, 2005 3:12 PM

  • Dan Mahoney
  • Bruce:

    So what?

  • Published: September 1, 2005 7:10 PM

  • joseph zack
  • Haven' read either Lukacs or Barnes.

    I have no opinion upon the accuracy of the reviewer's description of them.

    However the mention of Godel lead me to TNT, where I was lost, amidst a sea of ceberal pleasure for hours.

    Then I got back to the review.

    Then the reviewer's mention of Heisenberg.

    Got lost revisiting the Uncertainity Principle.

    Point of fact, it took me the day just to finish this one dang email!?!?!

    But I loved every minute of it!

    Respects,

    JZ

  • Published: September 2, 2005 9:34 PM

  • Dan Ust
  • Tim Starr posted this on Atlantis_II, a Yahoo group. -- Dan

    From: "timstarr2001"
    Date: Tue Sep 6, 2005 6:37 pm
    Subject: Re: Blunders, Lies, and Other Historicist Habits timstarr2001
    --- In atlantis_II@yahoogroups.com, "Technotranscendence" ..> wrote:
    >http://www.mises.org/story/1900

    My first impulse is to respond with a list of Rothbard's blunders and
    lies, such as his claim that Uganda under Idi Amin was a good example
    of a regime which was internally tyrannical but externally peaceful,
    written in "For A New Liberty" before Amin provoked Julius Nyerere of
    Tanzania to order the invasion of Uganda to overthrow Amin.

    However, there is a more substantive point to make about Gottfried's
    review of Lukacs' book. Gottfried seems to think that the fact that
    Britain and the Soviet Union had not been conquered by Nazi Germany by
    December 7, 1941, means that US entry into that war wasn't necessary
    to prevent German victory. This is a mistake that I used to make.

    While it's true that Britain had won the Battle of Britain in 1940, it
    was a near thing, could easily have gone the other way, and Germany
    could've resumed it at any time. And while it is also true that
    Russia had won the Battle of Moscow by the time US Lend-Lease aid
    began arriving, Germany was still occupying much of Russian territory
    and capable of occupying much more.

    The real crucial battle of WWII was the Battle of the Atlantic.
    Germany had enough U-boats to defeat the British Navy, but not the US
    Navy. If not for the Battle of the Atlantic, Britain would've run out
    of food and other supplies, and Russia would've run out of the
    supplies she needed to win the war, too. Furthermore, without the US
    Army Air Corps, the strategic bombing of Germany wouldn't have been as
    effective, and that would've allowed Albert Speer to increase German
    war production far more than he did.

    So, without US entry into WWII, Germany's conquest of Europe would
    probably have succeeded, and the naval bases it had arranged for in
    North Africa, Spain, and the Canary Islands, would've been filled with
    the vast armada Germany had in the works for an invasion of the
    Western hemisphere. Werner von Braun's transatlantic rocket-planes
    would've been carrying conventional warheads at the very least to New
    York City, as well as the Amerika bombers, and Germany would've had
    the time it needed to get its nuclear weapons program going (with
    Japanese help).

  • Published: September 9, 2005 4:42 PM

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