Be sure to read Justin Raimondo’s interesting theory of libertarianism’s divergent paths.
Source link: http://blog.mises.org/8189/justin-on-the-two-paths/
Justin on the Two Paths
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I think that a false dichotomy is being presented. What if I reject both the paleo-populist approach and the cato-reason approach? I reject the nationalistic and culturally conservative views of the paleo types, and I reject the pro-war and centralist views of the Objectivists and Cato types. I also reject the notion that the only libertarian criticism of Ron Paul comes from the Cato types. It also comes from the most radical factions within the movement.
Brainpolice, I can’t say I saw the false dichotomy. I think it is a valid comparison of the populist and political approaches.
As for Paul being criticized from the radical factions, I don’t get it. Quite honestly, I think it is a combination of snobbery and form-over-intent. So he isn’t calling for an anarchistic revolution, but even anarchists should be happy. Many people have been moved from the statist mindset to one of more liberty. They have taken the first step and it is now the task of the radical factions to convince these people of the validity of even more freedom. But I keep getting the impression that some individuals want these people to jump directly to anarchism, as if that is a probable outcome.
Most people resist calling themselves democrats or republicans, let alone libertarians (or anarchists). If you want to persuade people, you have to be clear about where you stand on key issues and why (briefly). Paul succeeds because he persuades people… some other ‘libertarian’ organs don’t persuade people because they send mix messages on key issues and are known for their strange positions on marginal issues.
“Brainpolice, I can’t say I saw the false dichotomy. I think it is a valid comparison of the populist and political approaches.”
I consider both of them to fall under the general umbrella of a political approach, only from different angles. This presents a false choice between joining up with the Ron Paul crowd and joining up with the Cato-Reason crowd, both of which favor political activism and electoral politics, as if there are no alternatives.
It’s also a false dichotomy in terms of where one stands on issues. There is no reason why if I reject the paleo-populist closed borders position and their cultural conservatism, I must be an Objectivist or a Catoite. There is no reason why if I reject the Objectivist view on war or the Catoite’s neoliberalism, I must be a paleo-populist. False choices.
BP, I still don’t see it as a clear false dichotomy. Yes, the emphasis on two different factions, but I don’t see how these two are clearly portrayed as the only factions of libertarianism. The only sin seems to be that other factions are not mentioned.
Where exactly are these closed border positions taken?
“Where exactly are these closed border positions taken?”
By Paul, Hoppe, Kinsella and Koster to name only a few out of many.
The debate over immigration is not really about closing borders or opening borders. It concerns how immigration policies themselves are used to enhance or diminish state power. Hoppe, for example, thinks that immigration should take place under conditions of invitation and property rights, not merely wandering in and getting on public assistance. At the same time, the reputed open-borders people like Julian Simon and Milton Friedman have made it very clear that they do NOT favor unrestricted immigration. They want some conditions. Block, I believe, is the only prominent advocate of completely unrestricted immigration of all kinds. Finally, concerning Hoppe, what he favors is the completely privatization of borders and immigration policy.
So the debate is actually quite complicated, and this is a problem since it is an issue on which emotions run high. For the most part, I’ve hardly seen any discussion of this issue that fairly characterizes the positions in the debate.
This Bylund piece is an exception in this regard.
Raimondo’s analysis of libertarian factions strikes me as oversimplified, but a workable first approximation. On the other hand, I don’t think the case against cosmopolitanism is anything like as strong as he makes out. I believe there is a deep congruity between cosmopolitanism and libertarianism.
An important focus of libertarian values is trade and trade-based economies. Historically, trade has taken place in cities, and cities have tended to evolve a way of life based on trade. And part of that way of life is regular encounters with strangers—with people from other cities and even other countries, and with people from other communities within a given city. The costs of maintaining a uniform set of customs in a city are much higher than in a smaller community. Instead, city dwellers need to develop the social skills for dealing with strangers and with people who don’t share their customs. This is where we get words such as “urbanity” and “politeness”—both of which ultimately mean “acting like a city dweller.”
Cosmopolitanism is part of this set of customs and values. Trade brings together people from different cultures with different customs; a trade-based economy favors people who are culturally flexible, who don’t insist that everyone live by their customs. In the long run, it leads to a sense that most customs are matters of personal choice and personal taste.
Part of the paleolibertarian program seems to be an emphasis on the right NOT to associate with people who are different, or live by different customs. And yes, that is a right. People are entitled to live in enclaves of tradition and conformity. But a market economy tends to undermine all traditions, as people who cooperate across cultural differences outcompete those who refuse to do so. In the long run, I think, the paleolibertarian position is a demand for the right not to be part of the market economy. And since the ultimate rationale for libertarian values is to enable people to live by free association (of which the market is the economic aspect), the paleolibertarianism Raimondo favors looks like a less enthusiastic support for those values than the cosmopolitanism he derides.
Maybe interesting in the light of the discussion on libertarians against open borders: Frank van Dun’s new essay “Not Really a Libertarian Case Against Immigration” – where he argues against closed borders.
http://users.ugent.be/~frvandun/Texts/Articles/LibertarianCaseAgainstImmigration.pdf
I think the following quotation from Charles Johnson (of http://www.radgeek.com fame), may shed a great deal of light on what to make of the “two paths” which Raimondo has presented:
“[U]rbanity at its best tends to help certain kinds of tolerance and pro-freedom thought flourish; but I think agrarianism at its best tends to help other kinds flourish. The best parts of the American Revolution (radical, anti-statist, directly democratic, anti-mercantilist, etc.), for example generally came out of the Massachusetts hinterland, for example, with most of the mercantilist jobbery and Law and Order conservatism coming out of the urban centers in Boston, New York, etc. What I’m inclined to say is that each form of life nurtures both its own characteristic virtues and its own characteristic vices. The agrarian tradition at its best cultivates populist skepticism towards self-appointed elites, individualist skepticism towards the arbitrary demands of others, an ethic of self-reliance, a willingness to live and let live in matters of private property, a skepticism of utopian central planning, etc. At its worst it tends to encourage parochialism, anti-intellectualism, hidebound traditionalism, “I got mine†indifference, conventional bigotry, a failure of skepticism towards traditional and supposedly “natural†authority, etc. Conversely the tradition of urbanity at its best tends to cultivate cross-cultural tolerance, respect for intellect and education, solidarity with others, intense skepticism towards traditional centers of authority, etc. But at its worst it has also cultivated predatory mercantilism, soul-killing mass politics (typically in the name of “democracyâ€), utopian central planning, imperial arrogance (both towards the Provinces and towards the underclass of the city itself), etc. I don’t want to slip into empty waffling here, but I do think that what we need to look towards is dialectical engagement with the best in each, in an effort to encourage, synthesize, and adapt.”
I would be interested to hear what others think about the above-quoted material, and how (if at all), it bears on whether libertarianism ought to pursue one “path” to the exclusion of the other, or rather attempt to “dialectically engage[] the best of each” approach?
P.S., Let me be clear that in acknowledging the value of urbanity, even ‘cosmopolitanism,’ I in no measure mean to endorse war, centralism, “loosed individuals,” or boot-lipping vis-a-vis the power elite. In fact, I think that it’s important that in critiquing these latter that, we not take for granted that self-described cosmopolitans really are such…
Interesting in the light of the discussion on libertarians against open borders is a significant article in the July 1 New York Post concerning a recently captured manifesto, written by al Qaeda theoretician Sheik Abu-Bakar Naji, which lays out what may be al Qaeda’s emerging strategy to achieve the Islamic domination of the world.
Open borders will surely be a great help to this program!
According to Naji it is impossible for jihadists to create a proper Islamic state in a single country. Instead, the Islamic movement must go global – mounting a low-intensity war that should be extended to all places in the world that have a significant Muslim presence, including both Muslim countries and non-Muslim countries. Jihadists must create parallel societies alongside existing ones.
“The jihadis are to begin by giving areas where Muslims live a distinctly Islamic appearance, by imposing special styles of dress for women and beards for men,” Taheri writes. “Then they start imposing the shariah. In the final phase, they create a parallel system of taxation and law enforcement, effectively taking the areas out of government control…. Jihad would be everywhere, rather than in just one or two countries that the ‘infidel’ could hit with superior firepower.” Instead of large-scale terrorist attacks of the past, Naji recommends “countless small operations” that would render daily life unbearable, including “kidnappings, the holding of hostages, the use of women and children as human shields, exhibition killings to terrorize the enemy, suicide bombings and countless gestures that make normal life impossible for the ‘infidel’ and Muslim collaborators.”
Taheri’s summary of the manifesto concludes on this point:
Once parallel societies are established throughout the world, they would exert pressure on non-Muslims to submit. Naji believes that, subjected to constant intimidation and fear of death, most non-Muslims (especially in the West) would submit: “The West has no stomach for a long fight.”
Well, if Abu-Bakar’s strategy is that the jihadists blend with and dominate the Muslim areas of a non-Muslim country, in order to subvert and Islamize that country, it would become impossible for the host society to distinguish the jihadists from the other Muslims.
The proposed strategy thus underscores that the only way to remove the terrorist, jihadist, and sharia threat from the West is to initiate a steady OUT-MIGRATION of Muslims from the West, by a range of measures both voluntary and involuntary, until the number of Muslims in any Western country is no longer “significant.”
Frank van Dun’s new essay “Not Really a Libertarian Case Against Immigration” – where he argues against closed borders – is a stunning example of not seeing the reality that is in front of one’s face, and mistaking one’s blindness for superior insight
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/al_qaedas_plan_b_117936.htm
“I believe there is a deep congruity between cosmopolitanism and libertarianism.”- William H. Stoddard
I am fully aware that classical liberalism (and libertarianism) is, in one very important sense, cosmopolitan in character.
However, there is a species of liberalism which can be called ‘cosmopolitan liberalism’ but contrasts with classical liberalism: a species of liberalism that developed by way of being critical in response to the political liberalism of John Rawls.
Understood as being this, ‘cosmopolitan liberalism’ is incompatible with classical liberalism for two reasons: first, it claims Rawls’ difference principle should be applied at the international level so as to redistribute income from well-off countries to poor ones in the way that Rawls claims social justice only requires redistribution from better off to the least well off citizens within a state. Also, cosmopolitan liberals, in the sense in which they can be contrasted with classical liberals, believe there should be open borders and full rights of citizenship (including rights to welfare) to those who migrate to present day western social democracies, something Mises certainly did NOT think, although he agreed, in an ideal world, there would be open borders, but equally full mobility of capital and strictly limited government with no welfare rights.
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