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Source link: http://blog.mises.org/5917/epstein-on-friedman-in-barrons/

Epstein on Friedman in Barron’s

November 19, 2006 by

“Friedman’s mechanistic view of money was thin gruel compared to the seminal contribution of Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises”.

{ 8 comments }

M E Hoffer November 19, 2006 at 6:22 am

In a related thread, Mr. Sperduto asks, and, then further, posits: “Given Friedman’s status in the economics profession, why did he not work harder to secure reasonable academic positions for Mises, Rothbard, and Hayek? These three world-class thinkers, and Mises was arguably the 20th century’s greatest economist, were relegated to second, if not third, class academic positions in the United States.”

I think that Friedman was accepted, to the extent that he was, for the fact that his theories, truncated as they were, provided the necessary insight for the furtherance of Leviathan–that which clutched him warmly.

The verbiage that is the link, in this post, neatly spells out the differences. Seminal, indeed, were Mises’ ideas. Fully embraced, they surely would engender a new system. Needless to say, one contra to that which coddled Friedman, whose ‘thin gruel’ merely oiled the gears that, yet, grind on-(Leviathan).

olmedo November 19, 2006 at 9:04 am

As I like to say, the problem with half baked ideas is the same than with half-baked foods; it can make great meals but the indigestion that follows is nothing to be liked..

here in Latin America, when in the 80s, after the debt crisis, Friedman became something of a cult figure with his “Chicago boys”, he was asked , what is his recipe for economic development and he said:”3 things; privatize, privatize, privatize!!”

and that sounded here like music to the ears of the local “politcos” and their cronies that soon went on to convert state monopolies into private monopolies resulting in price increases galore. The end result of all this is that privatization has become a “taboo” word in Latin American politics the same as “sex” in a puritan gathering.

thus the problem, Friedman forgot to finish his mantra with : liberalize, liberalize, liberalize!!!!

his monetary advised was even worse getting into massive problem more than one Latin American nation. if only Roger Garrison could have been around to explain the whole thing a lo less people could have suffered.

I wont denied it, Friedman was a great “political operator” for freedom but his achievements were “coyuntural” in a specific time and place and for that , we can be thankful here, there is much were we libertarians can learn from him here but please, don’t make him a patron saint of freedom!!!!!

olmedo

Amateur November 19, 2006 at 10:15 am

My feeling is that in talk, Friedman seemed pro free-market; but, in deed, his inner compass told him he ‘d better do a good turn to win a place of choice in the State citadel : this explains his witholding tax creation…he was thus allowed his free market excentricities …
Isn’t the economy the sum of what people actually do rather than what they say ?

David C November 19, 2006 at 1:17 pm

Anyone else notice the timing of his death. That is, just as fiat currencies around the world are getting ready to suffer disaster he is not here to witness. It was almost like a divine mecry, he got to witness the beatutiful side of his love for liberty but not the dark side of the fiat money systems he permitted. I think it’s good that Mises and him diverged, it gives the world something to turn to when the fiat systems fail. I think the world needed Friedman anyhow, not because fiat money is perfect, but because he was just a needed footstone on the long path to liberty.

Raymond Keller November 19, 2006 at 8:30 pm

“Given Friedman’s status in the economics profession, why did he not work harder to secure reasonable academic positions for Mises, Rothbard, and Hayek?”

This is an important question.

In fact, Hayek somewhere in these interviews

http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=showname&ID=126

hints that he suspects Friedman sided with those that BLOCKED him from getting a position in the University of Chicago economics department (Hayek eventually ended up at the Committee on Social Thought at The University of Chicago).

Rothbard takes care of Friedman here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard43.html

Greg Ransom November 19, 2006 at 11:44 pm

Friedman insists that he voted in favor of Hayek.

The real issue was Robert Hutchins and the Thomism of Mortimer Adler.

Hayek was coming in as a “Hutchins man”. The economics department and the whole university felt their independence under threat from Hutchins — and they detested Adler’s “Scholasticism”, they felt it was a threat to the practice of social science.

Somehow Hayek’s causal/empirical explanatory strategy (the causal/empirical element of entrepreneurial learning is his key explanatory element, explaining an empirical problem in our experience, market order) was take to be “scholastic” itself, presumably because the fact that each of us is a learner is “introspective” knowledge. This just shows what idiots that Chicago economists were — and how little they understood the economics of their better, F.A. Hayek.

Much of academia is about politics, rather than the soundness of ideas or the weight of evidence. This is one of those cases.

Raymond Keller November 20, 2006 at 9:41 am

Hayek does mention in the taped interview that Friedman says he voted in favor of Hayek. However it seems to me that Hayek’s tone is on the suspicious side when stating this.

What is amazing to me is the hypocritical nature of the University of Chicago, now. They refuse to allow him in the economics department and Hayek gets his Nobel Prize, according to the Nobel Committee, for his ” pioneering work in the theory of money and economic fluctuations and for [his] penetrating analysis of the interdependence of economic, social and institutional phenomena”

But the Univ. of Chicago has no problem claiming him as a “University of Chicago Nobel Prize winner”–despite the fact that Univerity of Chicago rejected him from the economics department for the very work that got him the prize.

Hayek’s picture is on the wall at the University of Chicago’s Gleacher Center, along with Friedman, Robert Merton et al.

gene berman November 22, 2006 at 5:41 am

There’s no doubt whatever that Friedman was a promoter of political and economic liberty. But his view was compromised severely by acceptance of the need for economic “control” via management of monetary magnitudes. In his view (and here I make a supposition), this would have appeared to be the least “intrusive” or “coercive” means to achieve the general economic aims of the state. Of course, it is less of neither of these things and achieves the ill results we Austrians deplore for the simple reason that it is less OBVIOUS to almost all. It is unsurprising that the practice of “gently’ manipulating the quantity of a fiat currency should come from the same crafty mind as had paycheck with-holding. He’s generally said to have been a nice guy, which, I guess, means one who believes in only gradually heating the water to eventually cook the frog.

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