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July Special: The Myth of National Defense

July 5, 2005 by


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Charles Warren August 3, 2005 at 4:57 pm

Libertarian ideas on national defense generally verge on the ridiculous.

Let us leave aside for the moment, the obvious truth that a state which cannot secure its borders will promptly see its resources occupied and looted by its neighbors the way Rwanda, Angola, Zimbabwe, and Uganda have helped themselves to the mines of Zaire. It will see its border areas being used to fight neighboring wars as gangs of armed men simply move in and take over the way the PLO did in southern Lebanon.

And let us leave aside the fact that bitter human experience teaches us that the worst possible tyranny is that exercised by gangs of young men with guns. There is no more destructive creature on this planet than a teenage boy with a gun. He has neither pity nor remorse and fears only being seen as weak by the guys. Death means nothing to him.

And let us leave aside the fact that military skills require training and practice that amateurs cannot give.

Let us look at the core of the problem. The essential unfitness of libertarian societies to defend themselves. Many libertarians, when asked, babble about Vietnam as if guerrilla warfare were paintball. Have they no conception of the staggering human cost the Vietnamese paid ? Is a society based on the principle that no one has any duty to anyone going to live in caves and tunnels for ten years ? Is a culture based on I, I, I, Me, Me, Me going to suffer and struggle and sacrifice year after year ? Of course not. Indeed, the values of good soldiers are collectivist values. Obedience. Duty. Loyalty. Self-sacrifice. Teamwork. No libertarian society would ever be willing to pay the cost in blood, sweat, and tears for victory.

Paul Edwards August 3, 2005 at 6:46 pm

Hi Charles:

It’s sad to read a comment like this so, if you don’t mind i’d rather not leave it aside, “And let us leave aside the fact that bitter human experience teaches us that the worst possible tyranny is that exercised by gangs of young men with guns.”

The bitter lesson we learn from history is that it is the despots and tyrants with the authority and credibility of government behind them who lead and coerce a nation’s youth into criminal acts of violence. And it is usually done with the pretext of some great and high moral motive.

This one “There is no more destructive creature on this planet than a teenage boy with a gun. He has neither pity nor remorse and fears only being seen as weak by the guys. Death means nothing to him” really pisses me off. I am old enough to look back and know that i was at one of my strongest moral points in my life as a teenager. Maybe youth has its temptations, but in a reasonable atmosphere of morality and liberty, certainly one of those temptations, even with a gun in his hands, is not to go on murderous rampages. If your personal experience suggests that this is the nature of the boys you’ve seen, then i am very sorry. Something is very broken there and i would look to a broken culture broken by a pathetic state that has failed its subjects.

From where i come from, teenagers tend to be idealistic and impressionable. Not natural born murderers.

I will answer your point “Indeed, the values of good soldiers are collectivist values. Obedience. Duty. Loyalty. Self-sacrifice” by observing how questionably such model soldiers as that served Russia against Afghanistan. If that’s the measure of a good soldier I’ll put my money on those such as the individualist early Americans who fought the British for independence.

Charles Warren August 8, 2005 at 4:31 pm

I will answer your point “Indeed, the values of good soldiers are collectivist values. Obedience. Duty. Loyalty. Self-sacrifice” by observing how questionably such model soldiers as that served Russia against Afghanistan.

So you think the mujihadeen were libertarians ? You think tribal warriors are individualists ? They are absolutely nothing whatsoever of the sort. I can imagine nothing more collectivist than the values of a suicide bomber.

If that’s the measure of a good soldier I’ll put my money on those such as the individualist early Americans who fought the British for independence.

An incredibly naive romanticism about guerrilla warfare seems to be a prerequisite of libertarianism. Both instances, Afghanistan and the American Revolutionary War, illustrate a key weakness. Both require the help of a Great Power. Once France entered the war England no longer held the strategic initiative. It was immediately compelled to evacuate Philadelphia to economize on shipping. In Afghanistan without American Stinger missiles the mujihadeen would have been crushed by Soviet Mi-24′s.

And we return to my earlier point. A climate of pervasive violence will turn young men into hardened killers and guerrilla warfare is a total breakdown of civil society. The Cole, Younger, and James gangs came out of Bloody Kansas and the Quantrills. The larger the guerrilla forces, the more likely civil warfare afterwards. Idealism ? Hardly.

As if libertarians would live in caves for ten minutes.

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